Jeff L. Thigpen Register of Deeds

Friday, July 15, 2005

I agree...

“These children now are North Carolina's children. Getting our young people educated is in our best interest.”

Former N.C. Gov. Jim Hunt, on a bill to allow in-state tuition for children of illegal immigrants.


  • I disagree. Illegal immigrants are bilking NC out of millions of dollars of social services while minimally contributing (if at all) to the tax base. And now we should give them in-state tuition?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:26 AM  

  • Are illegal immigrants minimally contributing to the tax base? That's not a rehtorical question, I'd really like to know.

    It seems to me that they would be paying sales tax on the goods they buy, property tax on the cars they own, taxes on the gas they buy, taxes on utilities, the rent they pay goes in part to pay the landlord's property taxes, their employers should be withholding income taxes (if not, that's hardly the employees fault), so just where are immigrants getting a pass on taxes?

    By Blogger Roch101, at 11:47 AM  

  • As a former college admissions counselor, I have seen many kids who have great potential to add tax value to our economy shy away from college because of immigration issues. Could the social services issues be expanded because we are creating more of an opportunity for the children of illegal immigrants to use social services than be more contributing members of society because they have the option of a better education.

    Roch, I think your question is valid and should be discussed further. They do contribute in sales tax, I don't know to what degree. I do believe better education helps them contribute more in taxes. In addition, we have to deal with legislative issues surrounding their "status" in the US in general.

    By Blogger Jeff L. Thigpen, at 12:16 PM  

  • It seems to me to be pretty naive to believe that since they pay sales taxes and rent they're paying taxes-many of these illegals are paid under the table and not paying payroll taxes at all (and yes their employers should be paying these taxes but aren't). They often live in crowded substandard housing that doesn't generate much in terms of property taxes. And they often drive cars without insurance shifting liability to citizens they are in accidents with driving up further costs of insurance and health costs. Look at the numbers of illegals who filed for federal tax id numbers versus those who actually filed tax returns. Its sobering.

    With a high tax burden that NC already has combined an underfunded UNC higher ed system for LEGAL state residents I don't see the need to consider someone who lives illegally in our state to continue further subsidization.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:16 PM  

  • I appreciate the discussion about illegal immigration, but what is your approach to the children of illegal immigrants. You are right regarding substandard housing and make good points about the tax issue. What do you do when you have a high school school seniors who didn't come here on their own, but have the capacity to improve their capacity to contribute to our society in a more substantive way, continue learning the underground economy we agree is detrimental to our society?

    By Blogger Jeff L. Thigpen, at 9:03 PM  

  • Sorry about fragmented sentences. I'm on a dial up in an undisclosed location.

    By Blogger Jeff L. Thigpen, at 9:04 PM  

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